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Esteemed Adventurer
bscdb
Posts: 212
Registered: ‎27-06-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

I found an interesting article on the cnn tech fortune website (august 2010)

 

In February 2010 at the Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Verizon and Skype announced a partnership  that would put Skype on most of Verizon's Smartphones including BlackBerry and Android devices.

But this isn't Skype like you'll find on an iPhone, Symbian phone or computer.  Verizon's brand of Skype, which rolled out to BlackBerries and Android phones on their network in March, uses the smartphone's voice line to make calls rather than a data connection.  When you use Skype to call a domestic phone number, you incur monthly minutes on Verizon just like a normal call.  What's the point?

Skype's motivation is that international calls over Verizon Skype are billed to the user's Skype account, which means Skype gets paid on its high revenue service, but doesn't have to provide free domestic service which is part of its yearly plan on all other platforms.  Incoming calls to Skype also work...if you have the Skype application open.

 

Compared to the normal Smartphone user's version of Skype, this is almost completely useless.  Even worse, if you even have Wifi enabled, Skype won't open on a Verizon phone.  That means you have to pretty much kill the Wifi use on your phone if you want to use Skype.

All of this is forgivable.  This is Verizon after all.  They make the rules.  If you want to play on Verizon's network, you play by their rules, which aren't going to be consumer friendly in any way, shape or form. But they do usually have the best network.  You know this when you sign up for two years.

But what kills me is that "for some reason" after this partnership, Skype isn't building an application for  Android (or BlackBerry) for other carriers, even internationally.  It looks like they've effectively given up on two of the biggest smartphone platforms to close this deal with Verizon.

If you look on the Android Market for a Skype application (see video above) you'll find a few third party applications, some of which can connect to the Skype network and make calls.  But these aren't full-featured Skype products.

One such application, Fring, was recently banned from using Skype's network.  I was able to use Fring to video conference over Skype briefly before Skype blocked Fring.  It worked well and offered a rough workaround for Skype's complacency.  Maybe too well.

Skype tells a different story about the blockage, but reading the comments shows how much Android and BlackBerry users are up in arms about Skype's lack of an Android application.

 

So why does Skype leave BlackBerry and Android devices out in the cold for the friendly confines of Verizon?

Certainly, in the long term, Android (by far the fastest growing smartphone platform)  compatibility is important.    One possibility is that prepping for an IPO has Skype thinking short term.  Lucrative carrier agreements are good to have on the books, even if it means signing away two of the biggest platforms that your customers want to use.

Another possibility for the general Android snub is that Google is putting all the parts together for a Skype competitor. Right now, their Google Voice product allows you to use another number, but Google hasn't quite integrated all of its Voice and Video parts yet.  But you can bet they will and they'll be competing directly with Skype.  That doesn't bode well for Skype's long term prospects.

 

But then why block BlackBerry?

I think it goes back to that agreement with Verizon.  It seems that Skype sold all of their BlackBerry users down to river to close this deal with Verizon.

Strangely, Skype hasn't released a client outside of the US for either BlackBerry or Android.  Could their exclusivity agreement with Verizon have been an international one?

As a consumer, I've pretty much given up on Skype as they've put the carriers in front of their customers and haven't done much in the way of innovation since they got picked up by eBay.  That is unfortunate because at one time, they owned the world's VoIP.

If I am a potential investor in a Skype IPO, I don't see a good long term future if they don't put their customers first, no matter how many advertising revenue opportunities exist.

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Esteemed Adventurer
bscdb
Posts: 212
Registered: ‎27-06-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

Does anyone know when Google Voice will be available for use in the UK ? It seems this will happen before Skype offer anything other than silence.

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Novel Adventurer
sitorus
Posts: 3
Registered: ‎13-09-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

Hi Smith (Skype Staff),

I'm based in Indonesia.
Quick question : is it possible to install Skype mobile on my Blackberry Torch ?

Thanks.
Rames Sitorus
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Novel Tourist
shaker68
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎14-09-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

I'm on telus using blackberry and just tried the download which just told me "only available on verizon". I've been using skype for many years now but will quit them as soon as my credits finish. They are making themselves obsolete to me.

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Novel Adventurer
alanrwinter
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎25-09-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

As soon as I can I am getting out of my contract and will never buy a blackberry again. Ridiculous not being able to use skype from my mobile
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Novel Adventurer
alanrwinter
Posts: 2
Registered: ‎25-09-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

going to do the same thing. Not at all happy with skype
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Esteemed Adventurer
bscdb
Posts: 212
Registered: ‎27-06-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

I wrote to Verizon asking how long their contract for almost exclusive provision of Skype to BlackBerry customers was likely to last.  I have received no response in over 2 months from them so it seems that with Skype and Verizon jumping into bed together we have two bad eggs that quite frankly deserve each other. They may not have wanted to divulge that information but they could have at least said so. Skype will wake up to the BlackBerry issue one day, probably when they lose enough millions.

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Novel Tourist
leonlee1202
Posts: 1
Registered: ‎26-09-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

2 things I use the most for my business:

 

1) My Blackberry

2) Skype

 

I am very, very disappointed.

 

I do not care if I have to pay. I do not care how ugly the app looks. Just do something.

 

That is all I have to say.

 

P.S. FYI I am not located in the States.

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Esteemed Adventurer
bscdb
Posts: 212
Registered: ‎27-06-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

Many of us in the same boat. I personally think most will remain loyal to BlackBerry and find an alternative to Skype. The day will come when Skype are no longer holding the cards. Google Voice for example is being tested in Europe so although we are being met with ignorance and silence from Skype ( who sold thousands of BlackBerry users down the river by signing a lousy deal with Verizon )  there will soon be others out there who will gladly offer us a superior application. Trends change and with their current attitude I predict Skype will be a name of the past in years to come.

 

In the meantime why not contact Skype live chat support and ask them what it is they dislike so much about giving their application to BlackBerry users ? Simply do a search for ' direct skype.com contact ' for the address.

 

In 2011 there is NO excuse for an applications availability being dependent on platform. One product available for all platforms. Is it too much to ask ?

 

 


leonlee1202 wrote:

2 things I use the most for my business:

 

1) My Blackberry

2) Skype

 

I am very, very disappointed.

 

I do not care if I have to pay. I do not care how ugly the app looks. Just do something.

 

That is all I have to say.

 

P.S. FYI I am not located in the States.


 

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Experienced Adventurer
lvl
Posts: 97
Registered: ‎28-06-2011

Re: Another Skype for BlackBerry post !

Hi bscdb,

Could not agree more!!

 

I personally use Google Talk for text messages on BB and full audio/video on PC...

It's free and it works! No just hope that Google will give us the audio (at least) on Google talk for BB (and other devices). BTW: it works over Wifi, so the "excuse" that Skype cannot work over Wifi on BB is just another spoof!!

 

Fring was a good alternative, but although they (Skype) don't bother to come up with an app for BB users worldwide, they (Skype) attack others who want to supply the service, including lawsuits... Great mentality!!

 

Have you tried your suggestion (live chat support)? If so, what was the response?

 

Concerning your last sentence: especially since Skype themselves never miss an opportunity (on their official blog etc.) to boast about their "multi-platform" and how their goal is to "make Skype available on all platforms" ... Maybe they could start with the most-sold, most-used platform of their business (read paying) customers...

 

Grtz,

lvl

 

 

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